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FOX News
Dec 3, 2012 11:00pm PST
cuts. none of the spending cuts in obama's plan. are we so far apart we will go up or is there a meeting ground? 'canes is smart of the republicans. last week, geithner to the treasury secretary and laughed at. across the board, left and right commentators said i think president obama is overplaying the hand here. they have a plan to get him what he campaigned on and said he wanted. they called it smart. we had the simpson bowl plan. deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good enough. call it a republican letter -- >> eric: this is the republican letter does not meet the test of balance. said our way or the highway from the white house. >> bob: reform ideas are interesting and should be on the table. the rest is bull. they don't cut anything out of defense. number one. number two, talk about the tax reform that will get to rich. or broaden the base of the tax b
CBS
Dec 4, 2012 12:00pm PST
. president obama says those tax cuts must expire for households making $250,000 or more. >> it's a position that is supported by a majority of the american people. and, you know, we need to see from republicans an acknowledgement of that. >> reporter: the gop proposal that the white house quickly rejected closes tax loopholes and reduces deductions to raise 800 billion-dollar in new revenue. the plan cuts $600 billion in healthcare entitlement programs. >> we are overspending and until you deal with that issue you cannot raise taxes enough to be able to keep one a trillion dollars of accelerate spending. >> reporter: republicans dismissed the president's plan late last week. but now that both sides have numbers on the table, some congressional watchers believe those outlines may eventually help them find common ground. in washington, danielle nottingham cbs 5. >>> are you ready for more rain? >> i don't know. >> well -- >> i guess we need to be. >> another storm heading our way. coming up, lawrence tracks when it will get here with hi-def doppler. igh-def doppler.. plus.. forget yo
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 7:00pm PST
earners. the republican plan would raise tax revenue by not extending the current obama cut in payroll taxes. but the republican plan still refuses to raise the top income tax rates. yesterday, treasury secretary tim geithner made it clear that there can be no deal without higher top tax rates. >> last question, can you promise that we will not go over the cliff? >> no, i can't promise that. that's a decision that lies in the hands of the republicans that are now opposing increases in tax rates. if they recognize the reality that we can't afford to extend those tax rates, then we have a basis for the agreement and that's going to be the responsible thing to do and my judgment is they are going to do it. >> joining me now, ezra klein, huffington post, ryan grim. ezra, what do you make of the boehner proposal that was kind of cribbed from erskine bowles? >> two things. one, republicans are terrified about by the polls showing that they are going to immediately get blamed if they are not willing to compromise. the reason you initiate the bowles' plan is you say, look, they are going along
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 2:00am PST
republicans weigh in on the fiscal cliff today. what will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make very tough fiscal choices, we're going to keep investing in these programs. >> reporter: he went online on youtube and twitter explaining why he thinks the rich should pay more. going over the fiscal cliff could cost america jobs. >> we're only expanding 2% right now. it needs to be considerably higher to bring more people off unemployment. >> reporter: for the jobless, president obama is asking congress for millions more. and more on the president's plan which will pitch to
FOX Business
Dec 3, 2012 10:00pm EST
obama voters split right down the metal on the political ppll on how they want obama to cut the deficit. 41 percent responded in far of spending cuts. 41 percent of respondents saying they favor tax increases. the white house says it will offer a counteroposal to house speaker proposal. saying that unless he ccepts tax increases on the rich the president is willing to go over the cliff. let's get straight to the politics of these developments and the rhetoric and possible economic impact of failureto resolve the issues. joining as, former spia assistant to president george w. bush, a veteran political consultant and republican pollster. let's tart, if i may, with you. do you think both sides right now are seriously ready to go over the cliff? >> i think the preside i very ready because they arereading into this election last month a mandate that i simply don't see. the president got 15 million americans to vote against him which fail to produce any type of meaningful budget in his democratic controlled snate. we are at the disco club because of the president's inability to ev a single-d
CW
Dec 3, 2012 10:00pm PST
still refuse to meet president obama's bottom line. letting the bush tax cuts expire for the wealthy. in the statement, the white house said that the plan fails the balance test and sticks the middle class with the bill. >>> the gay marriage in california is still on hold tonight. the u.s. supreme court could have announced today whether they would review prop 8. instead the justices announced that they will wait until friday to discuss whether to take up the case. legal experts say the delay ruling means nothing. >> it's like we have so many cases on the docket. let's put this one off next week, no big deal. that's really what happened. it really isn't the dog that didn't bark, but it's the case that has not been resolved yet and we're still waiting. >> professor little says he expects if the court grants a review that we'll know by friday. but if the court decides to deny or simply postpone the review again, that announcement will come later. >>> a desperate search is underway for a sick child tonight. security cameras of the phoenix hospital show the 11-year-old girl leaving with
Current
Dec 3, 2012 5:00pm PST
income tax cuts, they can't bring themselves to do it until after all the tax cuts expire. then obama, you know, is not necessarily bound by just that demand. he could come and ask to free up more revenue. as dan was saying, i think they hope that something in the market will make the democrats move quickly but if they don't that just suggests that they don't have it within themselves as a party to vote affirmatively do so something. >> eliot: there is one other component that could create fear and tank the market, and that's the debt ceiling. that's the place where john boehner is saying there is an extra price for that. i'm going to extort an extra piece of this if you want me to raise the debt ceiling and don't fall into that bear trap once against we hope. that's something that we'll talk about. we'll take a break and my guests will stay with me. we'll talk about the meet and potatoes of it and the debt sealing. we'll be right back. mints called mints? answer in a moment. fruit just got cooler. fruit on one side, cool on the other. ice breakers duo. a fruity, cool way to break the
FOX News
Dec 3, 2012 9:00pm PST
cutting taxes. president obama, i hope you're watching this. >> this can be the most important step we could take to prevent another recession. that is the right time to make tax cuts both for your family budget and the national budget. resulting from a permanent basic reform and reduction in our rate structure, a creative tax cut creating more jobs and income and eventually more revenue. it will include an across the the board top to bottom cut in both corporate and personal income taxes. the billions of dollars this bill will place in the hands of the consumer, and our businessmen, will have both immediate and permanent benefits to our economy. every dollar released from taxation that is spent or invested will help create a new job and a new salary and these new jobs and new salaries can create other jobs and other salaries. >> right. that is the message that president obama needs to hear. unfortunately, there's growing evidence to indicate that he's not interested in striking any deal at all. now, he may, in fact, want us to all go over the fiscal cliff. after all, he would be able
CNBC
Dec 3, 2012 7:00pm EST
the irs shows. that's what's interesting about the tread bush tax cuts that mr. obama wants to repeal in the upper end. i'm not saying in the middle end. in the middle to lower end the same irs data shows the bottom half of taxpayers paid 6 billion less in income taxes, that's a 16% drop. 8 million of them were left off the tax roles all together because of the child tax credit deduction. authenticities me because i don't think it's clear what class warfare produce in our tax code. sometimes lower tax rates can produce higher revenues. >> they produce higher revenue and improve the economy. when the clinton tax increases came in '93 the growth of the economy slowed down. we had a stable money policy then. we didn't have a nationalization of health care so the economy survived it and then spending was cut and tax rates are cut like capital gains the economy boomed. same thing in the 1980s. same thing in the 1920s. in the 2001 bush tax cuts they were so pitiful lie weak they finally got real ones in 2003 the economy came back. >> it is true, die read it correctly on the forbes we
ABC
Dec 3, 2012 5:30pm PST
trillion in deficit reduction mostly through spending cuts, and while president obama would not answer questions about the counterproposal -- >> no deal better than a bad deal, sir? >> thank you. >> reporter: -- a senior white house official assailed it as a step backwards saying if republicans do not agree to some higher rates for wealthier taxpayers, the nation will go over the cliff and the american people will hold the republicans responsible. wall street remains optimistic a deal will be struck, so the lack of progress has not yet resulted in a market plunge, but some economists estimate that because of the uncertainty posed by the fiscal cliff, at least 200,000 fewer jobs have been created this year. and, diane, the official deadline for the fiscal cliff is december 31st at midnight when the ball drops in times square, but there's actually another deadline. the house of representatives is scheduled to go on winter break a week from friday, so really there are only 11 days to work out a plan as of now, diane. >> talk about the clock ticking down. thanks so much, jake. >>> a
FOX News
Dec 4, 2012 6:00am PST
because of obama-care. people get the government spending too much. they want spending cuts. i will give you this, though. when you start to talk about specific cuts, people say don't cut my entitlement. that's the difficult issue in washington. but democrats have to wake up. martha: when you look at the 2% you are talking about. now it's 2%. when you look at it. who they want to have taxes raids on the white house. it's not a fiscal policy. is that a punishment orifice cal policy? >> i don't think it many a punishment. not in and of itself which is why you have to couple that with three times as much spending cuts. these people have had the best of the best for the last 20 years. when there is a tax bill they get favored. it's time for them to give a little back. andrea says all these people will be hurt. they will be hurt because her party is holding on for a bunch of 2%ers who don't need the money. >> i just said if we raise taxes they need to be coupled with billions in spending cuts. that's not what the white house is proposing. they are proposing a second stimulus and more spending
FOX News
Dec 3, 2012 7:00pm PST
. outraged victims say fema has left them to fend for themselves. that is despite president obama's promise to cut the red tape. we're joined by a man from the meeting. tom, i take it this gentleman was not the only one who was distraught with fema, is that right? >> of course. almost everybody at that meeting has different issues with fema, whether you lost your whole house and you have flood insurance or you don't have flood insurance. you know, that's where they're at. some people lost half their house, cars, you know. there's a lot of discrepancy in how fema lets out the money, you know. i can tell you stories where people, i know two people who had the same amount of damage, and one person, and they live on the same type of concrete slab, foundation house, right. and one person's floor is not their living quarters because they had three floors and one person's floor is their living quarters because there's only two floors. that person got 2000. she had like 8 inches of water in her living roo room on the ft floor which causes a lot of damage because it soaks up to all the drywa
FOX
Dec 4, 2012 12:00pm PST
proposal on avoiding the sharp tax and spending cuts that could take effect in january. president obama says it's possible that the tax rates could later be lowered as part of a comprehensive tax overhaul. >>> police responding to an early-morning burglary in san jose are surprised at what they found. we'll have exclusive video of the discovery. >>> rosemary's back in about nine minutes to tell you more about the new storm rolling in and when rain will increase in your neighborhood. >>> it's a first of its kind set up in the bay area. ahead with a new solar facility dedicated an hour ago is getting a lot of attention. on your prepaid card? introducing chase liquid. the reloadable card with no fee reloads and withdrawals at chase atms. all for one flat monthly fee so there's zero confusion. get rid of prepaid problems. get chase liquid. >>> a typhoon pum eling the southern philippines has killed least 74 people. the region's governor said the recent deaths included villagers and soldiers trapped when water flooded evacuation shelters and an army base today. the state news agency reports
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 10:00am PST
table as well as entitlement cuts. president obama seems to be indicating balance means getting more from the wealthy and likely to mean raising rates. as he said today and prior to today, the math doesn't add up if you simply close loopholes, cap deductions, do those sorts of things. we're sort of where we always have been. it's where we have been for several years at least when it relates to congress and the president simply not being able to resolve what are fundamental differences. we talked about this before the election, andrea. the election was supposed to tell us something about what the american public wanted. president obama did win the election. you know, an event has happened as part of the many months where the public comes down on this. >> luke russert, john boehner did yesterday come out with their proposal, the house proposal. is that a nonstarter or move the ball a little bit? >> i would say it's a nonstarter for the white house, but it moves the ball a little bit in the sense it gives us an idea of what the house gop conference would be willing to accept and that is
KRON
Dec 3, 2012 5:00pm PST
-era tax cuts in place for all income earners. president obama wants to end tax cuts for americans making more than 250-thousand dollars a year. the bottom line -- lawmakers made no progress today on an agreement. >> mitt romney has a job again.. he's returning to the board of directors at marriott international hotel.... he's been on the board twice before - but left to run for political office. romney has kept a low profile since the election - spending his time with his family at their california home. the romney and marriott families are close -- in fact - willard mitt romney was named after the hotel's founder -- j. willard marriott... >> heavy fighting between rebel and government forces in syria. now there is concern that syria could plan on using chemical weapons against the rebels. obama is warmin mornin-that it should not happening. >> the use of chemical weapons. is and is totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons it there will be consequences and you will be held accountable >> the united nations is withdrawing its international sta
Comedy Central
Dec 3, 2012 7:00pm PST
. >> trillions of dollars of spending cuts and tax increases that are going to happen when the ball drops on new year's eve unless president obama and congress come to some sort of compromise. >> stephen: all right so, we're all doomed. >> it's like the movie thaw you have to either cut off your arm or die. so they will come-- they will cut off their arm. >> stephen: do you know, do you know what kind of ratings the news could get if they could get politicians to cut off their arms on camera? okay. -- (cheers and applause) >> stephen: as i said senior white house correspondent for abc news. the only news anybody watches any more. >> i think that's true. >> stephen: and you have got eye new book here called the outpost, an untold story of american valor. this is about the war in afghanistan. >> it's about one combat outpost in afghanistan, 14 miles from the pakistan border, built at the bottom of three very steep mountains, built in 2006. and overrun in 2009 by the taliban. >> stephen: let's put a picture of this space right here. >> that's it. >> stephen: the space is at the bottom
FOX News
Dec 4, 2012 2:00am PST
is over taxing on the rich. obama wants to raise taxes on the wealthy. obama wants to eliminate deductions and close loopholes plus cut spending for entitlement programs. the president has said there can't be tax cuts for the rich at the expense of the domestic program which is frustrating for some republicans. >> this president, i think the president with president obama he's a small minded president in big times. he is talking about 35 verses 39.6 for people who make over a million dollars. that doesn't get us out of debt. >> both sides will be taking their plan to the public this week they will meet with governors for state business he's meeting with the governors today. john boehner will be with governors plus conduct rallies with small business owners. we don't know if these two sides are going to reach an agreement any time soon and the fiscal cliff is past approaching. >> thank you very much. we are going to keep with the fiscal cliff and take a look at who is talking. charles krauthammer weighing in on the negotiations. the approach on the president and democrats didn't
CSPAN
Dec 4, 2012 7:00am EST
-door meeting that they should agree with president obama and extend the tax cuts for middle-class americans and then fight later on for that tax cut for the wealthy. we will ask him about this latest proposal, the counterproposal from the house republicans. j.d. on twitter says -- on our republican , richard from colorado springs, colorado. caller: c-span could put on actual science. i think there is a lot of magical thinking on the part of democrats here. first of all, they are assuming if they raise the taxes on this one%, it will not affect the jobs and the companies that they work for. nor would it affect the customers they have. what are the percentages of the most important job creators around? how did you identify them? they had no clue. i think the other aspect of magical thinking is that in the noise and the signal, nate silver pointed out previously a 12% rise in gdp might ake for a 2% rise in employment. in 2005, we got 3.5 million jobs lost. it is a fantasy to believe that the president's spending is going to make employment rise more. recently, there has been an artic
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 7:00am PST
first main thing that needs to be addressed is the question of the tax cuts expiring. and for the obama administration, the question is, is it in their interest to trade tax cuts for the wealthy? increase for the wealthy for raising the age for eligibility for medicare, for example. i'm not sure that that's a trade that they are eager to make immediately. >> let me show you the side by side comparison. the president wants $1.6 trillion in revenue and republicans want to cap the same deductions for the rich but republicans want to change the age to 67 and change the way they calculate social security payments. i wonder, though, when we look at these numbers, are we that far apart in. >> i think they are definitely rather far aare part at this moment in time. yeah, absolutely. >> so there are so many ways that any of this could affect the average tack payer, obviously if taxes go up. but what about funding to states and localities. i know that one of the things that they are concerned about is that when you make cuts, that essentially those cuts are going to come on their budgets. what co
CNBC
Dec 4, 2012 1:00pm EST
automatically increase, which means any lower tax rates president obama will ask for is tax cuts and not an argument you are raising taxes on someone. for all those reasons, the democrats have a lot of leverage in january but that does not mean the democrats should wait till january, what happens after december 31st is everybody can lose. the kind of pressure we have psychologically and politically right now to get a deal done before we hit 2013, that kind of pressure and deadline pressure and momentum you're not going to have after you're over the fiscal cliff. so every day that goes by after january 1st isn't going to look like that big of a deal and essentially, time will run out for both parties, you will have a lot of problems in 2013, they will take the lion's share away from fiscal dealmaking, senate confirmation, have the debt ceiling, the long-delayed nuclear negotiableses with iran, going to have posturing for the 2014 campaigns. all of those things are going to suck out the moment up that we have right now. so, yes, democrats are not as bad off as the republicans, but
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 1:00am PST
, the republican from oklahoma, who said we're draz si if we don't extend the middle class tax cuts. you could see more republicans get there. and that's why i'm really glad president obama is not negotiating both for himself and for the republicans, which was sometimes his habit the last time. he's basically saying you want a bunch of cuts i don't have. don't make me propose them. that's creating some pressure on them. i think both those things will have an effect. we'll get the taxes back if we do nothing. >> the conversation in washington being separate from what it feels like the real needs of the country, a familiar feeling for me. i often have this frustration that the beltway discussion is not what the important questions are that are facing the country. in this case, i feel like as long as we're willing to talk about the economic needs of the country, as long as we're willing to talk about fiscal policy, how can it be we're not talking about new stimulus. the republicans ran against that as if the stimulus was this awful thing. but the republicans lost and we have an economi
FOX
Dec 4, 2012 5:00am PST
want big spending cuts but no tax rate increases. here is a picture of president barack obama answering questions on twitter about the fiscal cliff. he is promoting a reference to the estimated tax increase and middle income families would see if rates are not extended, the latest would extend tax cuts for everyone including americans and who the president wants to exclude. the white house says the proposal is too short on specifics. >> we can't guess what they are, they need to tell us and they look forward to the time when they are specific with the ways we have dealt with it. >> they don't like what republicans want to do to social security and more on that during my next update. reporting live, allison burns, ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> 5:14 in florida, they have released a photo of george zimmerman, showing george zimmerman with a swollen nose and blood did i face. they responded and said it adds nothing new to the case. the volunteer watch man is charged with second-degree murder and his trial is due to begin next june. >>> contra costa police officer was taken to t
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 2:00pm PST
bush cut taxes and started two wars with a minus half a million margin in the polls. barack obama has 3.5 million plus. so if 3 3.5 million plus isn't enough of a mandate to do something about taxes, what the hell was a half million loss? >> we're going to miss you congressman frank, barney frank ending an incredible career in massachusetts. we'll have you back again, if we can. >> i'll be around, chris. >> i want to ask you what you'll miss, positively and negative will from the congress. thanks for coming on tonight, congressman. >> you're welcome. >>> when we return, let me finish with whether the politicians who run the government will be able to do what's right, do what's necessary. this month. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. made a comm. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working
Current
Dec 4, 2012 9:00am PST
number 3, obama has put $400 billion of unspecified cuts on the table. he claimed obama's -- i'm serious -- proposal -- >> he is a drama queen. >> mine is serious. theres isn't serious! i'm flabbergasted. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: the programs have existed for quite sometime. here he is. >> they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house, but the president's idea of negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> objection. >> we need to find common ground and find it quickly. >> oh shut up. >> stephanie: common ground -- >> common ground do what i tell you to do. >> stephanie: how about the same thing you just -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: tom [ inaudible ] republican of oklahoma. >> i'm certain if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. this is a compromise on taxes -- >> stephanie: no it's not. and the aforementioned drama queen, lindsay gram. >> i'm pretty sure we have going over the cliff. >> good heavens! >> stephanie: oh, my god! i think we're going over the [ inaudible ] -- [ sc
CSPAN
Dec 4, 2012 5:00pm EST
president obama for his signature? did they move to protect 98% of middle-class families from this tax hike in january? no. no. they decided to hold the middle-class tax cuts passed by the senate hostage in an attempt to push for tax cuts for the folks they care the most about, the top 2% of highest earning households. republicans fighting for millionaires and billionaires is not a new story. in 2001, president george w. bush decided to spend a large portion of the surpluses he inherited from president clinton to cut tax rates. many democrats opposed him then because the tax cuts were unfair, favoring the highest-income americans. to overcome that obstacle, the republicans resorted to a parliamentary technique, budget reconciliation, a maneuver that allowed for passage of their tax cuts but forced them to expire after 2010, at the end of the ten-year budget window. so we scroll forward to 2010. as 2010 ended, president obama and many democrats in congress, including myself, wanted to extend the tax cuts for middle-class families but let rates on income above $200,000 for an individual
FOX
Dec 3, 2012 5:00pm PST
. they valued the plan at $2.2 trillion with 800 billion from tax reform and the rest in cuts to government problems. last week president obama offered a plan that relied on tax increases that would total $1.6 trillion. the republican plan does not include something the president said is essential, income tax hikes on those making more than $250,000. >>> stocks edged lower on fears the threat from the fiscal cliff might put a damper on the economy. the dow is down 59 to 12,965. the nasdaq is down 8 at 3,002. the s&p is down 6 at 1,409. coming up at 5:45 p.m., car sales reach a level they haven't seen in years. plus the potential impact the fiscal cliff could have. >>> mitt romney is back at his old job. he is rejoining the board at mareiate international -- marriott international. they have a long standing friend ship. >>> coming up, we have shown you this sink hole developing, what they are doing get things back to order in this neighborhood. >> a nice break today. the rainfall ending, giving us a break but there are more showers headed our way. i will have the timing on the sho
FOX News
Dec 4, 2012 12:00am PST
not about the people. >> the compromise -- you can't compromise if you believe in spending cuts, and we don't know if that is going to happen. >> why compromise if you know they are not going to cut spending. >> there has to be a mutual compromise. that's what a settlement s. >> obama is going for it all. >> why shouldn't he? >> she is right. >> he has no actual reason why raising taxes will help the economy, number one, and we know whether you cut taxes or raise taxes, you are always going to spend. >> i am not agreeing with his policies. don't misunderstand me. what i am saying is this is a negotiation and he is coming in with everything. where is he going to go? is onlo come down. the gop will have to come up. somewhere we hope they meet in the middle. >> he doesn't have to come down though. i agree with compromise. i would say 51% voted for this. you know what, go ahead. it is like having a teenager that you keep telling, vegetables are good for you and they keep kicking your shins saying, i am not eating the vegetables. finally i say, eat twinkies until you die. >> you can't bec
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 12:00am PST
president responded, high-end tax cuts do the least for economic growth and cost almost $ 1 trillion. extending middle class cuts boosts consumer demand and growth. the white house released a video today showing how president obama has been consistent on his message throughout the last couple of years. it was central to his campaign. >> we need to give tax relief to working families trying to raise their kids to keep them healthy, send them to college, keep a roof over their heads. that's the choice in this election. that's one of the reasons i'm running for a second term as president. >> how quickly we forget. in the words of secretary timothy geithner, this is why republicans have no choice but accepting the tax increases on the wealthiest americans. >> why does it make sense for the country to force tax increases on all americans because a small group of republicans want to extend for 2% of americans? why does that make any sense. there's no reason why that should happen. we can't afford those tax rates. we can't afford them. so we're not going to get to the end now without a reco
FOX News
Dec 4, 2012 3:00pm PST
and adrianna huffington. they talk about the importance of preserving the middle class tax cut. >> bret: not every democrat on board with president obama proposal. emanuel has that story. >> democrats won't agree to it. obama wouldn't sign a bill. >> they blast the house republican plan it's not likely that president obama will get to sign his own fiscal cliff plan since the republicans and democrats don't like it. the measure was defeated 99-nothing. west virginia senator says that both sides aren't going far enough when it comes to cuts. >> they are lower than what everyone says we need. all economists say we need minimum of $4 trillion or greater swing. >> i don't know how we got off-track of what we need to fix this. >> it will be tough for the 20 senate democrats facing re-election. such as begoch and maryland land and mark pryor from conservative states. the top republicans say the president's span not serious. >> comes out with a proposal to raise taxes by $1.6 trillion. has unlimited authority to borrow more money. >> chuck schumer says he prefers to set the bar at $1 m
ABC
Dec 4, 2012 1:40am PST
republicans refusing. after rejecting the obama administration proposal last week, house republicans offered an outline for $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction, mostly through spending cuts. and while president obama would not answer questions about the counterproposal -- >> no deal better than a bad deal, sir? >> reporter: -- a senior white house official assailed it as a step backward, saying if republicans do not agree to some higher rates for wealthier taxpayer, the nation will go over the cliff, and the american people will hold the republicans responsible. wall street remains optimistic a deal will be struck. so the lack of progress is not yet resulted in a market plunge. but some economists estimate that because of the uncertainty posed by the fiscal cliff, at least 200,000 fewer jobs have been created this year. the official deadline is december 31st at midnight when the ball drops in times square. the deadline is before that, a week from friday when the house of representatives is scheduled to go on vacation. in actuality there are fewer than 11 days before they need to work
CBS
Dec 4, 2012 4:30am PST
today to tell president obama their thoughts on the "fiscal cliff." the bipartisan group says both sides need to work together to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> no one is going to get what they want. but we have to compromise. if everything is going to be on the table, how do we negotiate? >> reporter: republicans have given a counterproposal to the president's plan which he issued last week. they say their plan would cut $2 .2 trillion from the federal deficit over 10 years. but $600 billion in healthcare cuts, $300 billion in cuts to mandatory spending, and another $300 billion in cuts to other federal spending. the biggest difference between the republican plan and the president's remains taxes and how the government can generate more revenue to pay down the debt. >> rates have to rise on the top 2%. there's no other way to do it. >> reporter: president obama says his plan will raise taxes on the rich bringing in 1.6 trillion. republicans want to close tax loopholes and eliminate deductions to raise $800 billion in new revenue
CNN
Dec 4, 2012 1:00pm PST
for everyone, coupled with cuts in spending like defense, education, health care, and housing assistance. let's go live to our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin with the very latest. jessica? >> reporter: president obama has now personally turned down speaker boehner's opening offer to avert the fiscal cliff. he did it in a tv interview. what does president obama think of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> reporter: but the president didn't say all this to speaker boehner. he said it in an interview on bloomberg tv. the last time the two men spoke was almost a week ago. president obama is
FOX Business
Dec 3, 2012 9:00pm EST
. barack obama, as originally the grand bargain one and 0 billion in tax cuts. then he won the election. now he wants to increase it to over one half trillion. he has double down on all of these things. if you go back historically in this whole program, you might remember roy reagan, $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. we get the taxes but ronald reagan never get the spending cuts. orge bush lost an ection in '92. he raised taxes on the democrats promised him $2 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. george bush is still waitin for those $2 in spending cuts. now the present is saying to live in give you two and a half to one. it's time the democrats and the president stepped up and cut spding. gerri: to that point. want you to respond to what the white house had to say in response to the republicans offer and then go to michael's point about what you will actually get latr. here is what dan pfeiffer said. it promises to lower rates for the wealthy and stickhe middle-claas with the bill. we could do it pinocchio test. is that true or false? >> completely
FOX Business
Dec 3, 2012 11:00pm EST
: they will want to first cut loopholes there that would make it less attractive, if you are barack obama you should be rooting for this. that means less attractive for thoscompanyo do over there and stay here. u.k. prospects should be subject to u.k. corporate tax. neil: should you pair spending in other areas to adjust. >> spending is very much down in the u.k. that is the problem, that is the argument shared sacrifice. neil: what about the princess? >> i told jonathan hunt last week that i thought kat middleton is pregnant, i am pleased to be right. neil: she has very bad morning sickness. >> which is why it was revled early, it was revead 12 weeks, it is to be expected. the role of the roll wife to provide an heir and a spare immediately. neil: dogs teach a lesson about living, they don't know the future, they have forgotten the pass, they are tree t free to ls straight in the eye, but is that any reason to bring them to work? former "seinfeld" star's choice ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the meedes-benz winter event is back, with the perfect vehicle that's just
FOX News
Dec 4, 2012 3:00am PST
cuts cutting it. you got a balanced approach. >> gretchen: kelley, that is brilliant. >> because the republicans have given a bold counter offer. come to me now, guys, we are okay. in a letter to president obama, the president writes that the american people expect the leaders to find common ground . with that they proposed a bold counter offer for averting the fiscal cliff. the republican plan seeks $800 billion through tax reform and mandatory spending cuts. the white house said that the republican proposal falls short of what the president wants and cannot be taken seriously. >> we understand they don't agree with everything but we have not seen alternatives for them and they spoke about the need for revenue and that acknowledgment is welcome. but thus far republicann leaders are adament don't believe rates should go up on the top two percent of the american people. the american people disagree. rates have to rise and the republicans need to acknowledge that. >> that's the major difference between the two sides. tax hikes for the rich x. republicans want tax reform and eliminate deductions and closing the loop holes. the president said on twitter, there can't be tax cuts at the rich at the expe
FOX
Dec 4, 2012 6:00am PST
president barack obama. republicans want 1.2 pill caron dollars in spending -- trillion dollars in spending cuts and that's almost twice as much as what the president has proposed. they are not raising tax rates on the wealthy which the president has demanded. they are also proposing 200 billion in savings for changes by potentially lowering the costs in increasing eligibility standards. that could be a major sticking point for congressional democrats but the president needs more details but he does not like what republicans are offering. look at how house democratic national convention democrats may try to force tax rates from wealthier americans, reporting live allison burns, ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> they are trying to make homes livable, under the program the city of new york will send contractors at no charge to homeowners. 400 project have been completed -- projects have been completed but some homeowners say the help is not coming fast enough. >>> ktvu channel 2 morning news allie rasmus is talking about the erosion and also how many drivers will be affected by this,
Current
Dec 3, 2012 4:00pm PST
i could have told barack obama in 2009 if you had a third of the package as tax cuts then republicans who are traditionally more comfortable with tax cuts may just pocket that and attack to other components of the program. that is exactly right. it appears that the president's team has finally learned that lesson, which is very reassuring. i'm going to bring in michael shure, our epic political correspondent. they're even running ads now or it seems like ads campaign ads even though the campaign is over. let me show you one of them, and then get your reaction. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> the polling is with the president. the clear mandate of this election was that the majority of americans agreed with president obama's vision of one of the ways to fix the fiscal cliff had to be to put new revenues and raise the tax rates of the wealthiest americans. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: so taking this case to the american people fighting strong, making his own case which he we've been asking him to do for four straight years. my reaction was this. >> flabbergasted. [ laughing ] >> cenk: wh
PBS
Dec 4, 2012 1:00am PST
kind of scaled in event of the of the 265 billion of bush tax cuts only 55 billion go to the wealthy. the other 210 billion go to the middle classment i don't think president obama wants to take that away. i can see him taking it away from the wealthy folks. but not the middle class. also, if you read president obama's book you get the sense that he not only wants to leave a legacy, he want to its leave an image of the greatest president of all time. and to do that you have to make major breakthroughs. and i lived in d.c. the only way to make major break throughs in d.c. is do what bill clinton did and reach across the table. >> susie: you know, bond the-- beyond the fiscal cliff and i know that say big issue hanging over the markets but there are also fundamentals going on as well. ot mixed reports on the economy. tom just talked about that weak data showing businesses contracting. and we're also getting warnings on weak corporate profits. so doesn't this give you pause about buying in this market right now? >> i think, i just got back from two weeks in europe speaking to portfolio
PBS
Dec 4, 2012 3:00pm PST
won't say what. claims they will cut spending but they don't say how. the republican plan is actually just a smoke screen. there's nothing real there. the obama plan is a very good, very sensible plan. which as we know as very little chance of taking place in its current form. at least it's a real plan. we know what it is he's proposing to do. >> ifill: among the critics of his plan are those who say that it doesn't do anything or speak at all to the economy of entitlement reform or at least cutting the costs of entitlement. >> that's a very weird thing. it does, in fact, actually cut a substantial amount from medicare spending. it actually... of course, the affordable care act, obama care, does a lot to curb the long-run growth of medicare costs. there's actually a lot in there. he's actually done more to bring down the cost curve for medicare than anyone has ever done before. but in washington that is considered not serious if he's not actually taking been anies away from people who need them. it's a really weird they can. you inflict pain on vulnerable people. obama is very serious
CBS
Dec 4, 2012 4:00am PST
. governors from six states are headed here to washington today to tell president obama their thoughts on the fiscal cliff. the bipartisan group says both sides need to work together to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> no one's going to get what they want, but as a country to move forward, we've got to figure out who gives where, and if everything is going to be out on the table, how do we negotiate that? >> reporter: republicans have given a counterproposal to the president's plan which he issued last week. they say their plan would cut $2.2 trillion from the federal deficit over ten years. with $600 billion in health care cuts, $300 billion in cuts to mandatory spending and another $300 billion in cuts to other federal spending. the biggest difference between the republican plan and the president's remains taxes and how the government can generate more revenue to pay down the debt. >> rates have to rise on the top 2%. there's no other way to do it. >> reporter: president obama says his plan will raise taxes on the rich, brin
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 4:00pm PST
not because boehner can't cut a deal. i think in five minutes' time he and obama would come up -- >> excuse me, excuse me, you're wrong. you're wrong. all that grover has to say, all he has to say is, we're in a particular fiscal crunch right now, and we've got to make allowances for that. if he did that, a lot would change. >> grover only counts because these tea party guys, the 50, 60, 70 in the house, they have a theological opposition to any -- >> let's go -- >> all they're worried about is being primaried from the right -- >> i know -- let's talk about the caucus you used to work with and know. >> very well. >> aren't there a lot of people over there if grover came out and said these are peculiar times, we have to make a couple adjustments. >> members of congress should not have to negotiate with grover norquist. >> but i'm asking you an open question. would that have any influence? >> it could but it would -- for grover he's an activist. he's someone -- he has his ideals, and if he compromises on that, that's harder for him. the fact of the matter is -- listen, saxby cham
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 11:00pm PST
give the tax cut at a million. here is what he wants to do. an increase in the individual income tax rate for the affluent may be unavoidable. obama did spend the last two years proselytizing for such a hike and voters were well aware of it when they re-elected him. but the white house has said that the rates don't have to return to clinton era levels. obama's nemesis, as he often told us, are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires? below that they have to get the deal. >> the problem with this is chuck schumer and other senate democrats tried to offer this to republicans last time. remember the last time we did this, they rejected it. >> it works for them now. they can say all we want is the schumer deal. >> right now they don't have the leverage to get the schumer deal. they re
FOX
Dec 4, 2012 4:00am PST
, house republicans' counter-offer in fiscal cliff negotiations with president obama takes away a white house argument that the republicans have no plan and puts medicare on the table for discussion. the republican counter-offer would raise $800 billion through tax reform and cut $600 billion from federal health programs, including raising medicare eligibility, another $600 billion cut from mandatory and discretionary spending, and factor inflation less in calculating social security benefits. "what we're putting forth is a credible plan that deserves serious consideration by the white house." in a three-page letter to the president calling democratic gains in the senate and mr. obama's victory a "status quo election," the republican proposal would raise half the amount as the president's plan and save $350 billion from medicare and medicaid. however, at the chicago fed, a gathering of 39 individuals from banking and manufacturing industries - including automakers and other sectors - say the economy is strong enough - barely - to withstand either party's direction. "the vast majority th
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 12:00pm PST
specifics a little bit. obama's plan for the fiscal cliff includes 400 billion or so in unspecified cuts, while the republicans have offered 800 billion in unspecified higher tax revenues. has either side gotten specific enough for you guys? >> they haven't gotten specific enough yet, but they both staked out positions that are imminently compromisable. there's good common ground there. what's preventing that? the republicans saying we'll never raise taxes. the problem is taxes are scheduled to go up. they can't say no to that. they will go up. the only real question for the obstructionists in the republican party is, seriously, you're going to block atax cut? that's what it is. >> i want to play some sound from our friend david gergen on cnn yesterday and get you to comment. >> since this election i think the democrats are the ones who are really trying to rub it in and almost humiliate the republicans, and that's not going to get to a bargain. i think it has to be win-win. you hear among some democrats right now and it's disturbing that maybe just ought to take it over the cliff.
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